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Comments on Puzzle #428: Fearful Symmetry
By Dave Tallman (RockSunner)

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#1: Jan Wolter (jan) on May 6, 2006

I did some checking with the help of the helper, and was able to demonstrate that this is indeed solvable and has a unique solution. I haven't had time yet to do the whole solution manually though. A very impressive puzzle, especially for a first post.
#2: Jan Wolter (jan) on May 6, 2006 [HINT]
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#3: Jan Wolter (jan) on May 7, 2006
Finally finished it. That's one stunning puzzle.
#4: Tara Pibel (tarap56) on May 10, 2006
I give up!! I've spent hours on this puzzle. Started over several times. Each time I get about half done and those nasty red dots start showing up. Bummer.
#5: Jan Wolter (jan) on May 10, 2006
You're not alone. As of the moment, only 5 of the 15 saved games for this puzzle were completed. It's fairly hard going, and you have to go for a long time picking up just a pixel here or a pixel there. Easy to slip up. I got into red dot land once but was able to fix it up.

One trick I use in hard puzzles is to try each cell that I think I can color with the wrong color first. In most cases, I should see a red dot when the color is wrong. If I don't, then either (1) my guess for that cell was wrong or (2) the guess was based on reasoning that involved more than one row or column clue. Using the red balls to help check my every move helps keep me from going astray.

It's kind of cheating, I guess. But in my editorial role, I feel obligated to solve all the puzzles posted here, and I'm not really the best solver in the world, so these large, difficult puzzles can be a huge time sink for me. I don't go "fishing" by clicking random cells to see if they give a red ball, but I suppose if I was a purist, I'd turn off the error checker.
#6: Tara Pibel (tarap56) on May 10, 2006
I do feel like a bit of a cheater having the error checker on, but it is SOO helpful, I leave it on. I don't actually use it like you described, but I suppose I shouldn't be such a perfectionist and just consider it another way to solve a difficult puzzle.

I was thinking that on a hard one like this puzzle it would be nice to have the option of a third color (say red) available, so when I start guessing a little I could mark boxes in red, so if it doesn't work out I would know what to erase.

I just want to say that I love this website and think you have set it up wonderfully well.
#7: Bobbie Hall (koalaobo) on May 11, 2006
Dave, if you want your kids to get any attention at all, I'd suggest next time designing a less intriguing, difficult, addicting puzzle. Love, Bobbie BTW-great job!
#8: Mark Conger (aruba) on May 11, 2006
Wow, this is a great puzzle. Took me two days. Thanks!
#9: nancy king (naneki) on May 13, 2006 [HINT]
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#10: Norma Dee (norm0908) on May 17, 2006
Wonderful puzzle. Made one false guess, but second time got it right and it went smoothly from there. I did it on paper because I surf at the library and don't have time to do them on screen. This is what a puzzle should be. Challenging but solvable with beautiful results.
After filling in the obvious in top 1/3 of picture, I guessed that near the top that 5 or 6 of the right most colums were blank.
#11: Clarabelle Munk (barbrock) on May 22, 2006
Whew! That was almost like work! Great puzzle!
#12: Gitte Olesen (granny40) on Feb 3, 2007
Great puzzle.
First puzzle... WOW
#13: Bionerd (nieboo) on Nov 26, 2007
Neat picture.
#14: Arduinna (arduinna) on Feb 22, 2008 [HINT] [SPOILER]
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#15: Gitte Olesen (granny40) on Feb 23, 2008 [HINT]
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#16: Rea Aksglæde Karlsen (Rea) on Jul 21, 2008
i love that im not the only one "cheatting" like that. I agree with Gitte ist just lazyness (if thats a word).

BTW beautyfull picture and great puzzle - all in all good combo.
#17: Zuzana (Mori.1) on Aug 21, 2008 [SPOILER]
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#18: Rea Aksglæde Karlsen (Rea) on Aug 21, 2008
hihi mori good excuse... wish I thought of that one
#19: Zuzana (Mori.1) on Aug 21, 2008
It is easy to come up with such an excuse if you look at a screen full of fingerprints:-)
#20: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on Oct 28, 2008 [HINT]
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#21: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on Jul 8, 2009
I liked solving this again. Fun puzzle. Not too hard.
#22: Joni Simmons (jonis) on Oct 21, 2009
Wow! Had to print the grid out 3 times, but finally finished it! This puzzle was grrrrreat!
#23: Deana L (FFsWife) on Dec 30, 2009
Once again going back into the "saved puzzles" area... Opened this up, and there was not one square solved in it... Completely blank! I guess maybe it was too big? I dunno. Anyway, a little tough, but a lot of fun! Thanks!
#24: Byrdie (byrdie) on Jan 3, 2010
I started this one a while back and let it sit in my saved puzzles. I went back to it last week and had it 2/3s of the way solved, to the point I could recognize the image, when I ran into an error I couldn't resolve. I cleared it and started over and, wow, well worth it. A beautiful puzzle that feels like I really accomplished something when I finished.

Ditto #s 9 & 10, btw.
#25: Levi Ross (rhodyboy888) on Jan 22, 2010
I also had this one in my saved puzzles for awhile. Finally found the time (and patience) to finish. Excellent picture!
#26: Al LaPointe (kancamagus) on Mar 20, 2010 [SPOILER]
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#27: Diana W (aeris) on Apr 25, 2010 [SPOILER]
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#28: Vaggelis Kamaris (evag7651) on Aug 17, 2010
fantastic.
#29: Ana Kriese (blueflame1376) on Jun 16, 2011
Ahem . . . this puzzle is not perfectly symmetrical. J/K I love it!
#30: Kai-Uwe Zickerick (conzick) on Aug 22, 2011
Wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
#31: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Mar 5, 2012
after initial line logic: all you have to do is use edge logic on the 15 clue in c1 to dot c1r39-50 and it solves out with line logic
excellent image
#32: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Sep 21, 2012
I can tell by the comments that this puzzle was created before the L key was introduced.

It reminds me of the LSU tiger logo. http://images.comcorpusa.com/440/0/crop/nbc33tv/media/sports/LSU_new_fox_web.jpg
#33: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Sep 22, 2012 [SPOILER]
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#34: Vaggelis Kamaris (evag7651) on Aug 5, 2016
solved twice. relatively easy.
#35: BlackCat (BlackCat) on Jul 22, 2017
I loved the image and had a really tough time solving the puzzle.
#36: Craig Corzine (UDcc123) on Mar 25, 2019
The only issue I had is that the site won't let you shrink the screen enough to see the #s at the top and the cells at the bottom, so I ended up liberally using the hint function just to speed up the process.
#37: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Mar 27, 2019
you can hit the arrow keys to move the clues from top to bottom (and whether they are top/bottom justified)...same for left and right. hope that helps!
#38: Byrdie (byrdie) on Mar 30, 2019
You can also go full screen - usually f11.
#39: Velma Warren (Shiro) on May 8, 2019
Tough puzzle but no guessing. Beautiful!
#40: besmirched tea (Besmirched Tea) on Oct 13, 2019 [SPOILER]
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#41: Vaggelis Kamaris (evag7651) on Apr 11, 2020
solved again.
#42: Pam Tucker (grammypam) on Mar 3, 2023
Nice puzzle! Enjoyed solving it!

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