Puzzle Description:

The teams slugger,with a 400 batting average,keeps his eye on the ball,to lay down a perfect bunt in order to advance the runners,in scoring position.

#1: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Apr 23, 2012

WOW realistic

Al: I can't solve his right eye brow or the red. Help!

after initial line/color logic:

el on the black 4 clue in r5 to dot c12 (ll then solves the rest of the right eyebrow)

only the red is left now but i had to guess

Thx Tom.:)

I'm sorry Jota and Bug that i couldn't get it solvable. I tried reworking the red,but i still can't get it. I don't know if Sensei was able to solve it,maybe he can help,or perhaps David can.:)

i'm down to the red also...everything else is placed and so far I have four red squares and a smattering of dots in the ball.

Super Duper, Aldege Rough solve but worth every frustrating second and third try on the red fives and sevens, then it popped right out for me.

Cool Nancy and thx,now can you help everyone out and tell them how you solved it.:)

when she said "third try" i assumed she meant that she was trial-and-erroring until it solved out...guessing...as opposed to logic.

David is correct. Trial and error.

I was able to do the solving that bugaboo worked out and got stuck on the red. If bugaboo can't solve it without guessing (or without having to look too many moves ahead), no one can. At least that is what I have observed to date.

But I did love the image. When I guessed where to go with the red, and the image popped at the end, that made it very enjoyable. :-)

Thx Teresa,i agree if bug can't get it,or David,or many others,then guessing probably is necessary. Sensei was the first to comment so i wonder if he had to guess?

thank you for the compliment(s)

There's no guessing on the red, just some thick edge logic. If you just had the 7 and 3,3 you'd look for a column of 1s flanked by 2s. With the 5 added in, you have to look for a column of 2s flanked by 3s.

I can add in row and column numbers if that helps.

row and column numbers would probably be helpful, because just looking at what i think (which i guess is a guess too) you are talking about still relies on the assumption/guess that flankers only overlap the larger clue by one pixel at each end...which is typically the case, but a guess nonetheless. the row and column numbers would show me where i am wrong.

You don't have to assume an overlap of one pixel. A series of clues like 5 7 3,3 3,3 3,3 3,2 (C22-26) implies a series of stepped clues starting from the middle and working out on either side. When the center portion is thick, you have to look for a series of 2s with a larger number on either side. If the 5 and 7 weren't stacked, you'd see at least one 1 clue.

The 3 clues fill in R22 C22-24 and R26 C22-24. Proceed with line logic from there, then repeat on the left half.

Does that help?

Trial and error mayhem... I lost count of how many times I used the Save and Revert buttons to get the red ones.

Found to require some guessing by gator.

I think even "deep lookahead" goes too deep. It seemed more trial and error.

You guys just aren't going to go along with my "thick edge logic." It's like a scientific Law; it's worked every time I've tried it, though I can't guarantee it will always work in the future.

so is this the scientific law?

I know how to use logic to solve webpbn puzzles...
When I solve them, they are completed...
I completed this puzzle...
Therefore, this puzzle can be solved with logic.

thx Gator for your judgement

The Law of Gravity does not state "what goes up, must come down."
Rather, it states that (paraphrasing) every time we've observed an object going up, it has come down. We cannot say whether future discoveries will later refute what we have inferred through observation.

Every time I've used "thick edge logic" it has worked for me. :)

pretty sure that that hasn't been the Law of Gravity for centuries ;)

While each half of the red can be solved with thick edge logic, as Kristen suggests, you have to first make the assumption that each row has a single red clue on either side of the split, and I don't know that you can make that assumption more certainly than an educated guess. And while the guess in that case is educated, it's still a guess.

Loved it. Thanks Aldege.

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