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#1: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Nov 15, 2011 [SPOILER]

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Ouch, you had to guess? I filled in my assumed parts, and will go back to the drawing board. I am sorry...

New version published by sgusa.

I double-checked. LLS

By the way, this is my first attempt...

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Tom, your first version was logically solvable, and a really fun solve too, I checked it off as being completely solvable by logic alone too, I just used some edge logic near the end. Lots of people on this site don't know how to do edge logic so they tick it off as needing guessing, which for them is fair enough. Kristen most likely did not give this puzzle the question mark, she knows how to do edge logic very well indeed. It was probably someone else that didn't comment. It happens a lot, to me as well, but I don't take much notice, if I have solved it myself and found it be logically solvable, even with some edge logic, then I just wait, after a few more ratings the ? will go and if not, then Gator or Jan with the pbn robot will rate it as solvable by logic alone. You just have to be patient. For a first puzzle it was great, I hope you create lots more, with edge logic too, lots of us here love a bit of edge logic or other fancy logic thrown in, spices up the puzzle solving. So please keep them coming, and don't get discouraged by the ?, if you have solved it yourself first and found it to be solvable, then just hang tight :)

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Thanks Marie-Louise. I really enjoy your 20x20 B&W. I don't usually do puzzles more than 30 pixels in height as they rarely fit my screen (or I have to reduce the size and can't see them).

Sorry, Kristen...

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No problem, Tom. There are lots of people with accounts who NEVER leave comments, but they will rate a puzzle. Any time edge logic (or another form of advanced logic) is required, a ? appears. As long as enough people mark the puzzle "completely solvable by logic alone" the ? will go away.

Tom,
Thank you for making a puzzle for us to solve. I tried to make a simple one years ago and it never left my computer! I admire anyone who tries, and I bet you will find it gets easier as you do more.
I think the perspective you chose for this image was nice in that it was unusual, and I hope to see your name on another one soon!

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Tom great 1st effort,don't be discouraged,keep making puzzles it's a lot of fun.I'm sure Lilly would tell you the same thing,she persevered and now she does some incredible stuff.We all look forward to more of yours.:)

You get better by making (and solving) more puzzles. :)

I often tell people what I think a puzzle looks like to me; especially with smaller puzzles there can be a lot of room for interpretation. I hope you didn't think I was being mean.

good puzzle and a fun solve. keep at it please!

Oh, to add to what marz said...sometimes you have to be VERY patient. I honestly believe that all of my puzzles are solvable by logic alone and I currently have 7 puzzles with question marks...the oldest of which is about 7 months old. I used to get defensive about them, but have learned to accept them. Truth be told, I might be a little sad to see my eldest one leave the nest...I think she sticks around because she likes me and I admire her persistence.

Thanks everyone for the encouragement. Do you know if I can resurrect version 1?

Good job Tom, keep 'em coming.

I personally give ratings on almost every puzzle I solve, but don't comment that often. If I can't solve a puzzle, I may not enter anything in the solvability box, thinking I may just be to tired to figure it out, or just not competent.

I do like to encourage new puzzle creators, more opportunities for solving! I also generally stick to smaller grids so they fit on the screen of my netbook. So I hope you'll make more puzzles for us.

Joel, thanks for your comments. I think they keep the creators creating. I started giving comments, and I believe it encouraged me to try creating one. The first version was a little harder. I should have kept it. Anyway, I posted a second puzze tonight which is hard, but much easier to create than the first. Best, Tom

Found to be logically solvable by gator.

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gator the steps in your second paragraph border strongly on 3 step look ahead but this has always been a gray area

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Couldn't see it until I read the story (thought it was a spider), then it was great. Tough puzzle only because I had to guess twice.

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Very nice! Couldn't see the image at first and then it jumped out at me. I agree, it was fairly easy till near the end when I did make a guess or two.

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