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Comments on Puzzle #35022: Angelic kitchen gadget
By Brian Bellis (mootpoint)

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  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: deep lookahead  

Puzzle Description:

Angel food cake cutter

#1: Jota (jota) on Apr 2, 2021

This one I had never seen before, nor do I understand the need for one.
Thanks for the series, very inspiring!
#2: Yonah Kondor (yokon965) on Apr 2, 2021 [SPOILER]
The best kind of fook cake cutter, IMHO.
#3: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Apr 2, 2021 [SPOILER]
You can also use a wire to cut angel food cake. Like the wires with handles on the ends, used to slice into a block of clay, or to garrote one's enemies.
#4: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Apr 2, 2021 [HINT]
After LL/CL

If the 16 in r1 went all the way right, there would no room for the 2 in r3. So r1c20-21 must be white.
LL

Then I only see Deep Lookahead.
If the 2 in c21 were in r3-4 then:
> it would make everything under r4 white in c20-21, forcing r6's 2 into c18-19
> which would make everything under r6 white in those columns.
> Which leaves no room for the 1 in r7
= Therefore our assumption was wrong and there and r3c21 must be white

Much like above:
If the 2 in c21 were in r4-5 then:
> it would make everything under r5 white in c20-21, forcing r6's 2 into c18-19
> Which would then conflict with r7
= Therefore our assumption was wrong and there and r4c21 must be white

LL to finish
#5: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Apr 2, 2021
Found to be solvable with deep lookahead by infrapinklizzard.
#6: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Apr 2, 2021 [SPOILER]
These were also useful for opening English muffins before modern technology made that much easier
#7: CB Paul (cbpaul) on Apr 2, 2021
I've never had angel fook cake. I bet it's good!
#8: JoDeen Mozena (ozymoe) on Apr 2, 2021 [SPOILER]
Jota, the reason it's lovely to cut a real angel food cake is that a beautifully made one is so tender that cutting it with a knife squashes it, no matter how carefully you cut a fresh one. Cutting it with this, you carefully work it down into the cake where you wish to cut it and gently tear it away from the main cake with the prongs. The trick is getting the first slice out...which I do with the aid of one knife slice along side of the prongs.

Paul...where do you live that you've never had angel food cake? If you live anywhere near my travels I'm of a mind to bake one and bring it to you! No one should go without tasting angel food...especially with strawberries and ice cream or whipped cream! Or some other fruit if you like it better.
#9: Brian Bellis (mootpoint) on Apr 2, 2021
Wow Kristen! That went DARK!

Sounds more like for devil's food cake.
#10: Brian Bellis (mootpoint) on Apr 2, 2021
I'm asking myself, why are people saying fook? Then I read my own description. I meant angle fook kake.
#11: Jota (jota) on Apr 2, 2021
Thanks JoDeen I hope I get to try it one day!
#12: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Apr 3, 2021
Found to be solvable with deep lookahead by valerie.
#13: JoDeen Mozena (ozymoe) on Apr 3, 2021
Lol Jota...it's just a fussy foodie thing. Probably one of those tools that eventually will be looked upon as one of those fun novelty tools someday, though when we used to actually bake angel cakes from scratch, they were wonderful to use. Such tender high cakes we made! It was a pride thing. I haven't actually made one myself from scratch in ever so long. Now that does make me feel old. It doesn't stop me from remembering, though. The angel cakes nowadays really don't compare...and I am being honest. They are dense...and gummy.
#14: Brian Bellis (mootpoint) on Apr 3, 2021
As an odd side note, in the 60's when the "Afro" was popular, cake cutters were used as afro picks.

Look familiar?

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#15: Ailsa Hebert (bazette3) on Apr 4, 2021
Good puzzle. Had no problem at all. On the 16 and 17 across. Fill in the 16 and if it doesn't work then fill in from the opposite end. Same with the 17. "Piece of Cake" from then on. Enjoyed the solve. Thanks!
#16: Yonah Kondor (yokon965) on Apr 4, 2021
Thanks for the correction Brian! I had a feeling that's what you meant, but I didn't want to call you out on it. :)
#17: Carol Brand (KarylAnn) on Apr 5, 2021
Learn something new everyday...never heard of this before! Fun puzzle, btw!
#18: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Apr 6, 2021 [HINT]
i used a bit of summing:

the vertical clues show only 8 blacks in C18-21. The 2s in R4-6 and the 1 in R7 must account for 7 of those. So half of the 2 in R2 has to stick into C17.

LL to the end.

I can't remember if summing is deep or moderate...and also, i'm not great at the line between moderate and deep sometimes, so I'll leave any declarations to others.
#19: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Apr 6, 2021 [HINT]
Unfortunately, that one pixel could be any of the rightmost blobs in r4-15. Disproving that would add on steps to make it deep lookahead.
#20: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Apr 7, 2021 [HINT]
True, I guess it has that added step of identifying "the last clue in R4-7 and at least part of R3 must be right of C17" as a precursor. good call.
#21: BlackCat (BlackCat) on Apr 7, 2021
Good illustration. Though simple, it did take guessing to finish.

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