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Comments on Puzzle #20240: WCP #120 El Día de los Muertos
By Tom King (sgusa)

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Puzzle Description:

Skeleton rising in the graveyard.

#1: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012 [SPOILER]

There is quite a bit to this Holiday. Here is another take:

http://todoloquemepasa.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/all-hallows-eve-in-spain/
#2: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Oct 31, 2012 [HINT]
after initial ll:
iel both 3 clues in r1 and r5 to dot c17-20 in both rows
ll to finish
no guessing
#3: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012 [HINT]
I placed 7 of the 8 in r20, and it solved out. Can't recall if I needed anymore. Thanks, Bug!
#4: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 31, 2012
This is quite good. I like his "hands". (PS I peeked)
#5: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012 [SPOILER]
That is quite a compliment, Norma. I peeked at your large puzzles today. Awesome. I only took a couple of minutes making this one, but I wanted a rustic Mexican look that I have seen many times regarding this Holiday. Many may think it extremely simplistic, but it worked for me. Best, Tom
#6: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Oct 31, 2012
i tried el on the 8 initially (also getting 7 of them placed) but that alone didnt seem to help me
#7: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012
I forgot. I'm sure that I needed your extra steps.
#8: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 31, 2012
Thanks, Tom. I'm going be thinking hard on a smaller scale so that people like you will have more to solve. What is the largest that you are comfortable with so I know what to aim for?
#9: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012
What the heck, may as well enter it in the contest...lol
#10: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012
Norma, width 30-35, height 25 (sometimes 30 if it doesn't have 8 items in any column). I'll back out if I see huge top columns. Max, 40x30, but rarely. Realistically, 35x25 max.
#11: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012
I can't stand solving my own puzzles that are over this max. The Old Lady and the Shoe took me about 12 hours to get right... I hated it by the time I finished it.
#12: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 31, 2012
I can understand your frustration to a small extent. I have an old, but excellent, monitor and my limit is less than 50 either way or I have to keep sliding back and forth and I get totally lost so have to pass on the larger puzzles.

I have one I finished that I was going to post tomorrow and it may be right up your alley.
#13: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012
No frustration, Norma. I just don't do them. However, I have almost exhausted the supply of webPBN 20x. I tried griddlers a couple years ago, and the look wasn't the same. They seemed less intuitive to complete. Additionally, I really appreciate the community here.
#14: Tom King (sgusa) on Oct 31, 2012
Lucky #13 on Halloween :)
#15: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 31, 2012
I, too tried other sites, but it just wasn't the same. I am just so comfortable with the way Jan has designed this site that others pale by comparison.
#16: Tom King (sgusa) on Nov 1, 2012
Norma, tried your Thanksgiving puzzle "Scram". That is about the largest I do. It errored out after I solved so was unable to leave comments or rating. Fun puzzle, though. Jan has done a wonderful job. I created a large group of internet retailers that is still going strong. I eventually bowed out (but am forced to be a moderator).
#17: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Nov 1, 2012
#18: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Nov 1, 2012
Thanks sgusa. I have been having that problem, too and have been meaning to ask if anyone else is getting errors like unable to save and internal server error. Maybe it's the very large volume of users on this site. If you look at the number of users at any given time it goes on for pages and pages.
#19: Jota (jota) on Nov 1, 2012
It's odd to say : Feliz día de los muertos! But here it goes ...
Thanks Tom
#20: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Nov 1, 2012 [SPOILER]
Such a fun holiday--I love the way they honor and revere the dead, and don't seem to be afraid of ghouls and ghosties :)
#21: Joel Lynn (furface1) on Nov 1, 2012
Norma, I'm with sgusa on the grid size, sometimes I use another computer with a larger screen and try some of Aldege's larger puzzles that are part of a series, but I prefer ones that are max 30 high and maybe 35 wide.

And I agree with you concerning the other sites! This one is so easy to use and the community is fun.
#22: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Nov 1, 2012
Thank you Joel. I'll try to make some that will fit your screens. But sometimes I start small and the puzzle seems to take on a life of it's own and I keep having to add room to grow.
#23: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Nov 1, 2012 [HINT] [SPOILER]
great puzzle, Tom! very fun solve!

at first, I thought it was going to be a cross or other icon that's heading up the parade going through the streets....

bug, el on the 8 in r20 was enough to solve the rest with ll. I saw the 1-1 in r's 2 and 4, with the 3's next to them in r1 and r5....and concluded that the 3's couldn't be in the last 4 c's that were boxed off from previous ll due to the 5's in the columns violating the 1-1's(if that makes sense to ya--I suck at explaining). getting these dots gives you enough to solve
#24: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Nov 1, 2012
oh crap, that might have been what you said! I saw iel and quit reading. never looked it up in a forum, so I have no idea about iel.....apparently I do, or I wouldn't have gotten it. just never knew what it was called or had it explained to me
#25: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Nov 1, 2012
Boy am I ever feeling the love,lol. How about a group hug. Niki got me on this site and I've never tried another and don't intend to. I love the community here,feels like a big family. I make big and small puzzles,and as you all know am quite verbose in my descriptions,but i have to admit that sometimes I love the challenge of making 20x20 B&W's that are LLS and have a good image and solve. I mostly do these for Sgusa and Joel's benefit. I also have to admit that i really enjoyed doing my Dark Night series. I wish someone else would do a series with a funny story. Norma's Halloween series was great fun.:)
#26: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Nov 1, 2012
well, sgusa needs em, or he'll get "the shakes". lol

I know Niki solves...at times, at least. she got you hooked and all....but why doesn't she join the fam and ever comment? what gives? just curious.... and after your "traitor" puzzle, I'm also kinda curious as to what author/s she's partial to....;)
#27: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Nov 1, 2012
Thanks Aldege. I'm all for a group hug.
#28: Tom King (sgusa) on Nov 12, 2012
Kurt, it means "internal edge logic." As you solve, you create internal edges, rather than just the periphery. You can go a step beyond that by looking at the numbers in the clues. If you have a 6 in say row 2 (without row 1 solved), a 2 in row 3, if you have three straight clues that are longer than 2, you can eliminate one of them (as that will contradict r3).
#29: Tom King (sgusa) on Nov 13, 2012