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Comments on Puzzle #22286: I hate difficulties with numbers (lol)
By Thomas Genuine (Genuine)

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quality:   difficulty:   solvability: line logic only

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#1: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jun 29, 2013

that's a matter of opinion
#2: Thomas Genuine (Genuine) on Jun 29, 2013 [HINT] [SPOILER]
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#3: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jul 1, 2013
This is not controlled by an AI, but by a simple if/then. It says this because most newbie puzzles are full-color pictures, and so the vast majority of overly simple puzzles created here need more white.
#4: Thomas Genuine (Genuine) on Jul 1, 2013
IMHO the most important role of a checking motor could be that none of us may not publish multiple solutioned puzzles. That is exact question, altough "what is easy, which is boring" aren't exact ones. I don't understand when after a "unique" checking someone can give a ? sign. Why it can be? It's LOGICALLY unique, there aren't alternative (other) solutions, no one can find those (cause those aren't). What does it mean "massive" guessing?
About 15 years ago we've elaborated (in Bratislava, Slovakia) that in PBN there aren't more types of logic but only ONE PURE LOGIC.
F.e.: Edge logic is the same than two or more serial line logic steps. No difference...
#5: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jul 1, 2013
Logically unique does not mean it can be solved by a human without making any mark other than a correct one. That is the definition of "moderate" or "deep lookahead" used at this website.

If you are not 100% sure that every mark you place is correct, then you have guessed. Coming back and erasing it and starting over in another place does not make it "not guessing".

As to different types of logic - it depends on definitions. Defining your terms are the very basis of logic.

The definition of line logic is to be able to place one or more pixels using the clues in only one line at a time. Edge logic cannot be done using the clues from only one line, therefore edge logic is not line logic.

The only way to say all the logic is one logic is to broaden the definition of "logic" until it is no longer useful.

Each kind of logic we use has specific ways of being used. It's important to be able to specify what kind was used when giving hints. Otherwise, it would be like telling a beginning driver to "drive" rather than teaching them *how* to drive.
#6: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Jul 2, 2013
but joe, it's ALL driving...if we know the car is drive-able, we just punch, pull and twist things until we get where we are going. just drive and if you have and questions or trouble just "drive better".
#7: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jul 2, 2013