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Comments on Puzzle #11194: No WCP #73 When will he fall?
By Kai-Uwe Zickerick (conzick)

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#1: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Nov 30, 2010

okay Kai, then you get a NO vote :)
#2: Kai-Uwe Zickerick (conzick) on Nov 30, 2010
agreed, Tom
#3: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Nov 30, 2010
Found to be logically solvable by Gator.
#4: Gator (Gator) on Nov 30, 2010 [HINT]
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#5: Jota (jota) on Nov 30, 2010
LOL I was wondering if someone would dare to do this.
#6: Sylvain "WCPman" (qwerty) on Nov 30, 2010
thank for this non-entry

don't forget to check topic 257 to see the cathalog of all past wcp entry
#7: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Nov 30, 2010
same edge logic on the 6
#8: (Private) (Cyclone) on Dec 1, 2010
I agree, not a good entry. Horrible quality, and even though edge logic does make it solvable (I gave it a 1 for difficulty in fact), it's not truly logically solvable without that method of trial and error.
#9: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Dec 1, 2010
so what you are saying is that edge logic is trial and error?
and that if a puzzle is not solvable with line logic alone then it is truly not logically solvable?
jan, gator, infrapinklizzard (and maybe a few others): have at it!
haha
#10: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Dec 2, 2010
i like puzzles with all logics being used
#11: Kai-Uwe Zickerick (conzick) on Dec 2, 2010
I'm surprised causing such a discussion by a puzzle that was planned as a joke!
#12: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Dec 2, 2010
exactly Kai, exactly
#13: Trish (tryingmysoul) on Dec 6, 2010
Thought it was fine....maybe not beautiful but solvable with very little guessing.
#14: (Private) (Cyclone) on Dec 12, 2010
bugaboo, I like having edge logic in a puzzle. However, if that technique must be used in solving a puzzle, then to creators like those at Conceptis (I won't spam the Web site, but some may know it already), it's not a truly logically solvable puzzle. Applications programmed to solve this type of puzzle don't use edge logic in their solving processes because to a computer, it would be "guessing". We of course know better how the brain works.
#15: Gator (Gator) on Dec 12, 2010
From what I know on this site, logically solvable includes line, color, edge, two-way, summing, smile, and affirmation logic. Basically, just about anything is allowed as long as it is not looking more than two moves ahead to see a cell as filled in or blank.

Other sites do restrict puzzles to what we generally refer to as "line logic solvable" or "line/color logic solvable".

Different sites have different rules.
#16: (Private) (Cyclone) on Dec 12, 2010
Yup, and I always considered puzzles where one must at one stage study an edge and extend in the mind from potentially filled cells to find an impossible situation as logically solvable, it's a valid logical step to me. If that makes sense, it did to me at least. (An edge can count as the middle of the puzzle if the neighbouring line is fully filled in, too.)
#17: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Oct 24, 2012 [SPOILER]
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#18: Aurelian Ginkgo (AurelianGinkgo) on Jan 5, 2018
So if they had made it zigzag just the right way, I theorize that the weight could be distributed in just a way as to allow it to stop leaning. Well, it's too late now.
#19: BlackCat (BlackCat) on Jan 5, 2018
I don't think much of this one.

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