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#1: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Aug 31, 2009

Found to have a unique solution by Gator.
#2: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Aug 31, 2009
Found to be logically solvable by Gator.
#3: Petra Lassen (Stjarna) on Aug 31, 2009 [HINT]
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#4: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on Aug 31, 2009 [HINT]
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#5: Jota (jota) on Aug 31, 2009
Thanks for another entertaining entry!
#6: Teresa K (fasstar) on Aug 31, 2009 [HINT]
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#7: Robyn Broyles (ginkgo100) on Aug 31, 2009 [HINT]
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#8: Gator (Gator) on Aug 31, 2009 [HINT]
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#9: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on Aug 31, 2009
Does "deep row edge logic" actually count?
#10: Petra Lassen (Stjarna) on Sep 1, 2009
Deep row edge logic sounds like it's close to trial and error - which actually can be a good method. ;-)
#11: Gator (Gator) on Sep 1, 2009 [HINT]
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#12: Jan Wolter (jan) on Sep 1, 2009
The edge logic you use to start is a little more complex than normal edge logic, but not really that bad.

I actually started with a dot in column 8 of row 1. The first clue in that column is a 2, while the first clues on either side of it are 1's. It's pretty obvious that if that cell was black, then row two would either have a 1 in it, or blacks separated by whites, and neither is possible. Basically we looked for a contradiction in row 2 of the puzzle.

I then kind of worked out from there. R1C12 is a similar situation to the one before, except this time there is a 3 with 2's on either side, and its easy to see how that can't be black either. So this time we look for a contradiction in row 3 of the puzzle.

I kept chipping away at row 1 in the same way. Looking a candidate positions for the 5 and observing the contradictions that they cause with rows lower down.

So this requires no more look ahead than normal edge logic, but you have to do it several times, checking against different rows of the puzzle.
#13: Jan Wolter (jan) on Sep 1, 2009
I think Gator should write a book on advanced puzzle solving. It would be like normal puzzle book, but the puzzles would be organized by solution technique. The first section would be basic line solving, the next edge logic, then fancy edge logic like this, then smile logic, and fancy smile logic, etc. Each section would start with a single sample puzzle on a page where a person could try to solve it. The next page would contain a step-by-step discussion and description of the new technique being introduced and how it can be used to solve the puzzle. The rest of the section would be a collection of puzzles that are further examples of the same technique. There would be two appendix sections at the back of the book. The first would contains hints like "use edge logic in column 1". The second would have solution techniques. The final section of the book would contain puzzles that require multiple solution techniques.

I think that would make a knock-out book.
#14: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on Sep 1, 2009
Sounds good, but do you think anyone would buy it?
#15: Jan Wolter (jan) on Sep 2, 2009
PBN puzzle books are apparently good sellers. If you go to the "books" page here you'll find links to many puzzle books on Amazon, some of which seem to be put together by someone who just sat down and made a lot of puzzles. Since I get a steady (though small) stream of income from the page, so people must be buying them. (Last I looked, there was an out of print PBN puzzle book being offered for $150 by someone who claimed it was "rare".) The guys at the WiiPicross site put together a puzzle book for kids. Dunno how their sales have been.
#16: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on Sep 2, 2009
Whooda thunk it?
#17: Gator (Gator) on Sep 2, 2009
The guys at HeroGlyphix are also developing a fantasy game based on paint-by-number (picross).

http://www.heroglyphix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=342
#18: Jane Doe (telly) on Feb 4, 2010 [SPOILER]
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#19: Byrdie (byrdie) on Mar 2, 2010
Jan's method in #12 made sense to me and helped me work this one out. Good puzzle - taught me something new.
#20: Walter Lutes (ulutes) on Jan 3, 2012
Jam, could you make an extra category in the find puzzles for types of logic used? This is my first experience with advanced edge logic.
#21: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jan 3, 2012 [SPOILER]
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#22: Kadou (Kadou) on Jul 17, 2012 [HINT]
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#23: Bryan (Cyclone) on Dec 30, 2013 [HINT]
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#24: BlackCat (BlackCat) on Jun 13, 2017
Very easy once I guessed one of the 10s.

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