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Comments on Puzzle #4533: beetle
By shay yatim (shay3979)

peek at solution       solve puzzle
  version: 2    quality:   difficulty:   solvability: moderate lookahead  

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#1: m2 (mercymercy) on Dec 26, 2008

rotund
#2: Byrdie (byrdie) on Dec 26, 2008
Yup, well fed.
#3: Petra Lassen (stjarna) on Jan 5, 2009 [SPOILER]
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#4: Meg Smith (mamadragonfreak) on Mar 19, 2009 [HINT]
i found myself in a place where i had to make an educated guess to continue. i used the symetry as my guide.
#5: Tamar Wilkinson (Tamar) on Jun 3, 2009 [HINT] [SPOILER]
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#6: Eludwar (elfluvsdwarf) on Jul 16, 2009 [HINT]
had to guess symmetry.
#7: Gator (Gator) on Aug 19, 2009 [HINT]
There are a few cells you can fill in or dot with smile, edge, and two-way logic, but it seems symmetry is the best way to go to get to a solution.

#8: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Sep 8, 2009
Found to require some guessing by jan.
#9: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Apr 2, 2010 [HINT] [SPOILER]
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#10: Tony Jacobs (GTony) on Nov 26, 2010
I did it without guessing. When I got stuck, I started narrowing down possibilities for the 5 in R14. I could rule out its going back as far as C4 or C5; ditto for C11 and C12. After that, it was fine.
#11: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Feb 25, 2011
It looks someone already stepped on it!
#12: Jan Wolter (jan) on May 6, 2011
(I fixed the formatting in Joe's comment #9)
#13: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on May 12, 2011 [HINT]
i agree with gator...i used edge, one (each side) instance of two-way logic (with minimal look-ahead) and smile logic (primarily one up top and then once down low once you get enough other things filled in to narrow in on that 5 in R14). no symmetry logic was necessary (though would have made solving easier)...personally, i consider this one solvable without guessing.
#14: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jun 1, 2012
David - how did you go forward from my posted image?

And the status has changed from "(requires some guessing)" to no warning. Maybe inadvertently when Jan edited my comment?
#15: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jun 1, 2012
I guess it got through the first time, 504 - gateway error notwithstanding...
#16: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on May 6, 2013 [HINT]
i don't remember my path from back then, but looking now...let's see, the best i can do:

whether C3R11 or C3R13 is black, the resulting dot(s) force C2R6 will be black.

lookahead alert: whether C1R11 or C1R13 is black, C2R13 is a dot.

IEL (?) blacks C4R13

same stuff other side?

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