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Comments on Puzzle #35970: portrait of SO and me
By Slavmi Losmi (Ghostychuu)

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  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: moderate lookahead  

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#1: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Oct 14, 2022

97% done and trying VERY hard to stick to "moderate" lookahead. Really liking the image so far!
#2: Jota (jota) on Oct 14, 2022
Same situation here David.
#3: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Oct 14, 2022
Got to 98% :)
I have so little left that it seems like it should either be multiple solutions or we should be able to find a moderate lookahead...and the checker says unique, so I'm still trying :P
#4: Christine Freer (cfreer) on Oct 14, 2022
For a long time I was thinking I was looking at a close of Daffy Duck - until other pixels came into the right place, and now I see something entirely different
#5: Scott (McEncheese) on Oct 14, 2022
Very cool pic. I couldn't do it without guessing, but I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, so take that with a few grains of salt.
#6: Bill Eisenmann (Bullet) on Oct 15, 2022
okay so I finished it, and can't quite make out who they are. Ghost?
#7: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Oct 16, 2022
Found to be solvable with moderate lookahead by dbouldin.
#8: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Oct 16, 2022 [HINT]
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#9: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Oct 19, 2022 [HINT]
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#10: Lizzy B (lizzyb) on Oct 19, 2022 [HINT]
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#11: Julie Bay (jb) on Oct 23, 2022
Thank you! I really like this one!
#12: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Oct 27, 2022 [HINT]
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#13: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Oct 27, 2022
I'd like a better (closer to vanilla moderate lookahead) step than that last one to definitively call this moderate lookahead, though
#14: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Oct 28, 2022 [HINT]
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#15: Koreen (mom24plus) on Oct 28, 2022
Excellent first attempt. I liked this and it was hard!
#16: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Nov 5, 2022
You got it, David. I remember looking at the 2 earlier in the solve and it was too long of a chain. And then I forgot to look at it later when it was not. I assumed it still was, I guess.
#17: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Nov 6, 2022
I do that a lot! Happy to help!
#18: derby (Derby) on Nov 10, 2022
Good job. Excellent puzzle.
#19: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Nov 11, 2022
Found to be solvable with moderate lookahead by infrapinklizzard.
#20: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Nov 11, 2022
It became votable again
#21: Valerie Mates (valerie) on Nov 12, 2022
That's not good! I haven't noticed that happening since I fixed that one bug that was causing it. I'll look into the database logs this evening to see if they give any clues about what happened.
#22: Valerie Mates (valerie) on Nov 12, 2022
Joe: I traced it through the database logs. On October 16th, David set the puzzle's Logically Solvable setting to Definitely Moderate Lookahead. Then on October 17th, Slavmi Losmi, the original author of the puzzle, edited the puzzle. I'm not sure that Slavmi changed anything about the puzzle (I don't think it could have been changed, or the software would have given it a new version number), but the action of saving the puzzle also resets the Logically Solvable setting back to unknown, which makes it votable again.

I'd say it's debatable whether this is a bug or a good idea. Ideally, if the puzzle content and size haven't changed, then the software should be smart enough not to erase this setting.

Anyway, I'm glad to have a clear explanation for why the setting got erased!
#23: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Nov 13, 2022
Maybe tying the resetting of the solvability to the changing of the version number would work?
#24: Valerie Mates (valerie) on Jan 8, 2023
I dug into the code. The code changes the version number when the author changes any square in the picture. In the case where someone blotted some clues but left the picture the same, the version number would not change, but I think the solvability could change then. So I added a line of code that says "if this edit did not change the clues, then don't change the Solvability setting." That should fix this bug.
#25: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Jan 11, 2023
Makes sense. Good catch Valerie!

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