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By Brian Bellis (mootpoint)

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#1: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Dec 26, 2017 [SPOILER]

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#2: Aurelian Ginkgo (AurelianGinkgo) on Dec 26, 2017 [HINT]
LL from the bottom up until lookahead is required; EL R15 places the 29 clue between C5 to C34, filling in C6 to C33 with black b/c C1-4 have to be white/dots. LL continues for a little bit. Make sure at this point to check R8-9 with LL so that you don't miss whiting out/dotting C18, R8-9.

From this point, I don't know if anyone has better advice. I tested some edge logic by seeing how far I could go by temporarily assuming that C1R12 was black. There was no easily discernable contradictions, and so I followed that assumption to the end. LL finished the puzzle, so I feel I finished by guessing, not pure logic. This is because if I had assumed wrong and followed the trail to a dead end that is far beyond deep lookahead, it would have simply been a wrong assumption. My point is, an expert needs to find a hard-and-fast, inarguable dead-end breaker that I did not find the right way. If none of the experts can, then it might have to be rated "solvable with some guessing." I will not mark it as such because I just don't know enough to judge it as so. I would like to see that this is solvable with moderate lookahead, and I would also like to learn what I could have done to solve it with hard-and-fast logic. Any better hints out there?
#3: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Dec 26, 2017
:)
#4: Al LaPointe (kancamagus) on Dec 27, 2017 [HINT]
I had to guess, but it was a correct guess so I'll claim victory anyway! :)
#5: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Dec 27, 2017
This was a much more difficult solve. I had to rely on cursive logic from the previous puzzle. :)
#6: Brian Bellis (mootpoint) on Dec 28, 2017
"Cursive logic"!? I didn't know that was a thing.

Or did you mean cursing logic "F&%$ it, I'll just guess"
#7: Aurelian Ginkgo (AurelianGinkgo) on Dec 28, 2017
Am I right in putting together that "cursive logic" is when the solver assumes that all lines connect somewhere?
#8: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Dec 29, 2017
Yeah. I tend to give whimsical names to different types of "logic" (sounds better than "guessing"). Goatee logic, shoulder logic, etc.

And yes, this was based on Brian's previous puzzle, in which the letters all connected as if written in cursive. :)
#9: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Dec 29, 2017
there is no guessing, silly-billies.... I didn't track the solve per se, but it really isn't too bad. I believe I used el on the bottom row. and then iel on the 6 in c4. game over. the iel breaks it wide open. if you still don't "get it", I'll re-solve and post. no more "?"'s though
#10: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Dec 29, 2017
I prob will re-do and post, when I'm slightly less inebriated. happy new year all!
#11: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jan 5, 2018 [HINT]

after ll
el 29 r15 = c1-2, c35 w
el 5 c35 = r13 w
el 2 r14 = c1-3 w
ll
el 6 c4 = r15 w
ll

and that's where i'm stuck with 42 black.

Have you sobered up yet, Kurt?

#12: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Jan 14, 2018
yeah, Joe...unfortunately, I have....lol

I'm tellin ya, all you need is el on the bottom row and el/iel to place a few dots at the bottom left of the puzz. ll will finish it out. after that, there is a sneaky black or so to find that's part of the "6" in r11, but it's pretty well straight-forward after you place some dots in the bottom left.

it is more than just iel in c4 as said before though. you've got to do iel to get a dot or so with the 3 in c2 first. and yes you can! keep working from the left edge and moving inwards. until you've got enough dots to finally place black in c4...

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