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Comments on Puzzle #22879: a mini exercise in moderate look-ahead... can you solve?
By Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro)

peek at solution       solve puzzle
  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: moderate lookahead  

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#1: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Oct 4, 2013

Hope you all could navigate this lil puzzle ok and had a fun solve!
#2: Thomas Genuine (Genuine) on Oct 4, 2013
Yes, it could solved easily, although in special method:
First color logic (red parts), then after edge logic (upper rows)
Til this moment I didn't touch the mouse! :)
... and only after those started line logic counts.
:)
#3: Joel Lynn (furface1) on Oct 4, 2013
I didn't think it was easy. Took me a bit to find a place where I could use edge logic after all the line & color logic was exhausted. I like the image.
#4: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Oct 4, 2013
yeppers. easy to start with the color logic and the top el...but there are several other instances in which look-ahead can be used. things like "no matter if this 2 is here or here, c(x)r(y) is black". I don't think color logic and the top edge logic is enough to solve this one

just curious how people go about solving and what they see
#5: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Oct 4, 2013
thanks JL! been going back and hitting some of the smaller puzzles, I've noticed... good to hear from ya! :)
#6: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 4, 2013
I've discovered it's real easy to "cheat" using the new check feature. When you think you have figured where to color the next square, you fill it in, then quickly click on the Check button to see if you are right or wrong. Quack, quack, quack.:)
#7: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Oct 4, 2013
oh, yeah....didn't even notice the check button til now. guess that would make it easy. I'm sure some will cheat, but what fun would that be?
#8: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Oct 4, 2013
Found to be solvable with moderate lookahead by jan.
#9: Jan Wolter (jan) on Oct 4, 2013 [HINT]
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#10: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Oct 4, 2013
thanks Jan! :)

Wow, I didn't even notice your hint. Tons of ways to solve this one!
#11: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 4, 2013
It makes me happy to confirm that I have made the right choice before going too far afield. If wrong.....then back to the drawing board.
#12: Linda Martin (ilovethispuzzle123) on Oct 4, 2013
a little toughie and very, very fun to solve.
#13: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Oct 4, 2013
thanks Linda! glad you liked it :)
#14: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Oct 5, 2013
I did like Jan
#15: Jota (JOTA) on Oct 5, 2013
I did the 2 on the first column. Love it! Nice bird!
#16: Jan Wolter (jan) on Oct 6, 2013
Re #14: Why'd you stop?
#17: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Oct 7, 2013
lmbo - I solved the puzzle with the same rational and chin scratching as did our web master Jan.
#18: ryan moore (solar) on Oct 7, 2013
Once I did the color logic of red, I looked row 1 and 2. Removed the left 4 spots since those would cause contradiction to row 2. That then leaves 8 squares in row one for the 7 spots to be at. From there, I found it easy and don't remember the step I took to complete it.
#19: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Oct 7, 2013 [HINT]
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#20: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 7, 2013
Some of us aren't as perfect as others. If I can use the new check feature to verify that I have made the right choice, and am not getting off the track, then I can continue and enjoy the rest of the solve.
#21: Jan Wolter (jan) on Oct 8, 2013
I think I personally am going to use the check button only rarely, but people are different. They solve puzzles differently, and derive different forms of pleasure from them. Some like to strain their brains looking for the magic pixel that will solve everything, and some just want to breeze through and find a pretty picture. I'm not here to judge. So I offer a variety of tools, and people may use them as they choose, often in ways I wouldn't have thought of. There is no right way or wrong way.
#22: teresa dickens (trdickens2) on Oct 10, 2013
I'm going to try the check button... i like for puzzles to be challenging but if it becomes to onerous i just peek because the bottom line is i want to enjoy the solve. I think the check button could help me avoid that.
#23: Kristen Vognild (Kristen) on Oct 11, 2013
I've been known to use the Peek feature, and hold my hand over the screen so I can only see one edge. That's usually enough to get me unstuck when I just can't see anything beyond LL.
#24: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Oct 11, 2013
I think my comment about "cheating" came out sounding much harsher than I meant. It was not meant to be an indictment of anyone who uses the new check feature (or any other cheat for that matter - I sometimes use L late at night when I just want to be filling pixels rather than thinking.)

It was just a reaction to Norma's description of a hypothetical drone filling in one square and checking, then another and checking, without any thought. Take that idea to its logical end and you could do it much faster just by marking them "finished". Attempted humor that failed.
#25: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Oct 11, 2013
Joe: I didn't take it as harsh remark.
#26: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Oct 11, 2013
I knew what you meant, Joe. This has been one of those years where everything that can go wrong, does. So I apologize if sometimes I sound a little cranky. This also affects my concentration and sometimes my eyes play tricks on me and/or I miscount and "paint myself into a corner". So the check feature is great for me in that I can check my progress without peeking at the solution. I find the "L" particularly helpful on larger puzzles with lots and lots of ones because my eyes have a great deal of difficulty keeping track of them all.

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