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Comments on Puzzle #21033: Lame puzzle, c'mon Karl
By Tom King (sgusa)

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  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: moderate lookahead  

Puzzle Description:

Taking the Ravens tomorrow... Kind of luke warm but hate Jim Harbaugh and glad they won. I took San Francisco + 5 midway through the 3rd Quarter (during the blackout) and won. Also won the first half pool!

#1: Kristen Vognild (Kristen) on Feb 3, 2013 [HINT] [SPOILER]

This one requires some sneaky edge logic to get started. The 3 5 3 in rows 1 and 2 match up with the 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 in columns 3-11. The rest is line logic.

Midway through, I was *sure* it was going to be the Enterprise! Then it resolved into a bird. :)

I'm not sure what "tsking" the Ravens means. Is it a typo of "taking" or does it mean you'll be scolding them?
I'm arbitrarily pulling for the Ravens myself, since Michael Oher (of The Blindside" fame) is on their team. Plus I have more friends in Baltimore than in San Francisco. :)
#2: valerie o..travis (bigblue) on Feb 3, 2013
lol..sneaky edge logic :)
#3: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Feb 3, 2013 [HINT]
here were my steps:

EL dots C20R1-2
LL
EL dots C1R1 because of R3
then more normal EL dots C2-4R1 and C16-17R1
also EL dots C10R1

that leaves two places the 5 can go. either way will trigger both 3's in R2, so we know that either way C9-11R2 are black and C1,2,6,7,8,12,13,17R2 are dots.

LL
C7R7 or C10R7 must be black, the resulting dots in R8 mean that the 8 must start no further left than C8. C12-15R8 are black.
LL to finish.
#4: Jota (jota) on Feb 3, 2013
I also solved with EL on the right side five!
#5: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Feb 3, 2013 [HINT]
I started el on the 5 in c 20 also...but knew I could dot r10 c20 as well cuz if the 5 made it to the bottom, then the 8 and 6 in the bottom rows would cause a discrepancy with the 1's in the c's....and also that either that 8 or 6 had to start at least as far right as c17, so the ll dots above had to be part of the 2's and not the 1's. just another way of many to tackle this puzzle...good solve Tom!
#6: Tom King (sgusa) on Feb 3, 2013
Thanks, all!
#7: Tom King (sgusa) on Feb 3, 2013
Love how it gets rated 2 in difficulty... I try to be sneaky with the logic ;)
#8: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Feb 3, 2013
Tom, you keep forgetting that there are people out there (it might ever be Karl) who love to mess with the ratings. Forget the ratings, listen to your friends.
#9: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Feb 8, 2013 [HINT]
Kristen, it cannot be started by looking at the 5 & 3s in r1-2. There are two places that they can be put with no conflict til much later (c5-9 & c11-15).

David - good catch on the 8 in r8 - that's where I got stuck.
#10: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Feb 10, 2013
It can so, because that's where I started it :D
#11: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Feb 11, 2013
:) @ kristen
#12: Al LaPointe (kancamagus) on Feb 28, 2013
most excellent
#13: Al LaPointe (kancamagus) on Feb 28, 2013
most excellent
#14: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on May 29, 2013
Found to be solvable with moderate lookahead by infrapinklizzard.

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