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Comments on Puzzle #18764: Naughty
By Nelson Peters (Ace 09)

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Puzzle Description:

#1: Adam Nielson (monkeyboy) on May 26, 2012 [SPOILER]

See puzzle # 3078.
#2: Claudia (clau_bolson) on May 27, 2012 [SPOILER]
naughty: naugh·ty (nôt)
adj. naugh·ti·er, naugh·ti·est
1. Behaving disobediently or mischievously: a naughty child.
2. Indecent; improper: a naughty wink.
3. Archaic Wicked; immoral.

I think "naughty" is not enough to describe what this puzzle represents. Unless it means something different for you, the symbol used by a naughty child whose prank was to drive Europe to a long and cruel war and to kill 6 million jews and 6 million of other races.

I hope I was clear.
#3: Teresa K (fasstar) on May 27, 2012
"Evil" would be a more appropriate title. I understand that this symbol does not represent evil for all cultures, but for most of us, it sparks feelings/memories of horrific deeds.

"Naughty" would refer to someone who would choose, out of millions of possibilities, this as the subject of a puzzle, possibly just to push our buttons and see how many people react.
#4: Doug (tntoak) on May 27, 2012 [SPOILER]
Something like this should NEVER be used for a puzzle. Once I figured out what it was, I refused to even complete the puzzle because of what that symbol represents.
#5: Thirsa Terpstra (terp3) on May 28, 2012 [SPOILER]
I think this puzzle should be removed. Never use this symbol in a puzzle again!!
#6: Jota (jota) on Sep 24, 2012
Disgusting! Did what Doug did.
#7: Martin Thurn (mthurn) on Apr 9, 2013 [SPOILER]
THIS IS NOT AN EVIL SYMBOL. This is a mirror image of the German swastika -- note that the "arms" point counter-clockwise. This symbol was used for hundreds of years in Japanese martial arts called shorinji-kempo.
#8: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Apr 10, 2013 [SPOILER]
The symbol was used by quite a few ancient cultures. The name "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit for "well-being."

There are some nice photographs in this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
#9: Tom Siebert (tsiebert) on Nov 18, 2013 [SPOILER]
Get a grip people. It's a puzzle, nothing more. If you're offended by a symbol that represents a culture responsible for the death of millions, you might want to avoid any Christian crosses. In that regard, it's equally culpable.
#10: Bananas (Bananas) on Dec 30, 2017
Please please, pbn gods, take this puzzle down completely.
#11: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Jan 2, 2018
Bananas, check out my link in comment #8, for the true meaning and history of the swastika.
#12: Kelly Groth (kellyhenk) on Feb 7, 2018 [SPOILER]
I understand the emotions behind many of the comments. But I'm inclined to agree with tsiebert. This is simply a puzzle...a person out there stretching their creative chops. I think any other assumption we make beyond the creation of this puzzle is dangerous.

I recently completed a pole dancer puzzle. Any less offensive?

This is an amazing site, with an amazing group of talented people. These people keep me entertained with creative and diverse puzzles. Please...let's keep things in perspective.
#13: besmirched tea (Besmirched Tea) on Feb 7, 2018
I thought it was the presidential seal
#14: northoftheborder (pland27) on Feb 7, 2018
No such thing as "only a puzzle" Kelly. When you make excuses for things like this, it only empowers the proponents. Call it
what it is. The meaning intended used by Nelson Peters is clear with his comment "naughty". I'm with Bananas. Take it down immediately.
#15: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Feb 7, 2018
Jan's comment on Adam's puzzle mentioned above:
#37: Jan Wolter (jan) on Oct 8, 2010 [SPOILER]
While swastikas have been used in many circumstances, black swastikas on white circles on red backgrounds are pretty specific to Nazi Germany.

Which reminds me of a story: After Germany was defeated, a generally impoverished and battered country found itself with a glut of flags that nobody wanted anymore. My mom once told me that she and lots of other little girls her age, suddenly acquired new bright red dresses with black and white trim.

Offensive? It's a relic and reminder of a terrible chapter in the history of the world. But it's chapter we need to remember.

Still, Adam was definitely right to put a warning on it, as it is not exactly safe for work.
#16: James Ernst (siegfried) on Mar 11, 2019
This puzzle should be removed for offensive content. Those who argue that it isn't a "true" swastika, or refers to earlier cultural usage, miss the fundamental point. Symbols that are similar to this one were used for fundamental hate and now represent that hate. In context (museum, historical film, etc.) the usage is acceptable. As a symbol alone, this simply speaks to the ignorance or hate of the poster.

As others have stated, this will remain an unsolved puzzle for me.
#17: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Mar 12, 2019
If we cover over the horrors of the past, people forget. Then we end up with resurgent crap like we have today. This needs to be seen and talked about. Don't hide it or people will have to learn the same harsh lesson all over again.
#18: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Mar 12, 2019
I agree with Joe and Jan.
#19: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Nov 12, 2019
I think the pole dancer puzzle might have been mine :P

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