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Comments on Puzzle #15028: Mr. Monalisa
By NiGHTS (NiGHTS)

peek at solution       solve puzzle
  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: some guessing?  

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#1: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jul 1, 2011 [SPOILER]

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#2: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Jul 1, 2011 [SPOILER]
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#3: NiGHTS (NiGHTS) on Jul 1, 2011 [SPOILER]
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#4: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jul 2, 2011
life is often compromise
#5: NiGHTS (NiGHTS) on Jul 2, 2011
Life: "The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death"

You did not choose to live, but you took on the challenges it came with. It's a compromise between dealing with your circumstances which you cannot control, and the alternative which is death. Since you can't change the past, and you have decided to keep on keeping on, compromise is a component of life rather than a passing occasional event.
#6: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jul 2, 2011
sometimes one doesn't have to compromise when the circumstance is in agreement with its needs/wants/desires
#7: NiGHTS (NiGHTS) on Jul 2, 2011
A lifestyle can be considered a compromise to a whole different lifestyle. A man who dedicates his life to medicine gives up a life of partying. He may not like to party, but he will never live a second life to find out what he missed out on.
#8: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jul 2, 2011
just think if your name was DaYS
#9: NiGHTS (NiGHTS) on Jul 2, 2011
That's my fiance's name
#10: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jul 2, 2011
Happy afternoons
#11: Jota (jota) on Jul 2, 2011
I always hope I get a doctor that has not been partying a lot!
#12: Linda Martin (ilovethispuzzle123) on Jul 5, 2011
love this puzzle. i believe that our circumstances are never in agreement with our needs/wants/desires. once we fulfill a need/want/desire, a whole new need/want/desire will manifest, and will need to be fulfilled. it's this constant quest for a state of equilibrium that gives meaning to our lives.
#13: NiGHTS (NiGHTS) on Jul 6, 2011
Like food
#14: Teresa K (fasstar) on Jul 8, 2011
Very interesting image and discussion.

No one has mentioned the solve. So I will. :-)

I was not able to complete this one without guessing. There was a point where I got stuck and could not find any edge logic to help me, just lots of 1 and 2 clues. I did a visually logical guess on some of the single pixels, but that did not get me far. I eventually had to peek at the solution. Which kind of ruined the fun of solving.

NiGHTS, you said you had to change it up to make it solvable. And I appreciate that. With multiple solutions on a puzzle this big, not many would have even tried to solve it. But when the checker says that it is logically solvable, sometimes it tells you to check it first to see if it is solvable without guessing (using smile logic or edge logic). On a huge grid like this, it is usually better to avoid the need to guess, as it compromises the enjoyment of the many puzzlers who will want to solve your excellent puzzles. Some people have laptops and they need to scroll up and down and up and down. Or they print it out. Either way, it's way too difficult to solve a big puzzle that requires this kind of guessing.

You had to compromise your original idea for this puzzle in order to make it solvable. I compromised my desire to make only complimentary comments. You are such a creative spirit, and it is so exciting to solve your interesting high-quality puzzles. I hope that my constructive criticism does not squash your inspiration to make more puzzles. Because I am really loving them. :-)
#15: NiGHTS (NiGHTS) on Jul 9, 2011
Yes I will take your advice to consideration. On future puzzles I will try to make them in such a way that at least one row contains enough clues to produce the final image. This is something I have noticed recently in puzzles, and it is a great way to ensure that the solve is actually fun.

Its a learning process through and through.
#16: Teresa K (fasstar) on Jul 9, 2011
It's amazing how much you have learned in the short time you have been on this site. I can't wait to see more of your creations.
#17: naum khulin (nah) on Sep 22, 2011 [HINT]
This puzzle can be solved by logic alone.
Edge logic can be misleading though.
Just do not try the obvious.
It is a good hard puzzle.

Congratulations!!!
#18: Bryan (Cyclone) on Feb 10, 2014 [HINT]
I saw the "questionable question mark" here, so let me analyze this and confirm it so an admin. can hopefully clear it!

As this is a B&W puzzle, I took this to my automatic solver. And what I got was a lot of line logic. Eventually, R40 gave me two open spots to place the 5, in which the first caused contradictions regardless of the placement. This allowed more line logic.

When stuck again, I looked at some bigger numbers and made no progress. However, I did eventually notice the 4 on the edge in R14 with 2 completed. It can go in either direction, left or right. If it goes right two squares (dotting the left), you end up with a single 1 where a 2 is needed in R15. So the rightmost square is false and you can extend one square left with one square still unknown. Unfortunately, there is no progress from there.

Moving to R32, there is a 2 that can go either way. Whichever side is true results in the square above it being true as well as part of a 2 clue. Look carefully at R31. The two separated boxes will be part of the 1,2 set that is still unknown; the rest of the row is solved. Therefore, after leaving the two possible squares on each side that can satisfy the R31 2 clue based on R32, the rest of R31 is false. We get one more box using LL from here, but again stall.

Let's move to C33. The 4 can extend to R22 and R23, but this messes up C32's remaining 1 clue. Put a dot in R23C33. After placing the matching box, we're left with two-way logic once again; either R18 or R22 will hold a pair of boxes in C32-C33, meaning the rest of the unmarked C32 is false.

At this point, I can make NO logical progress. Any other attempts at edge logic, including internal, lead to more blockages and we have to reverse our thinking to try another path leading to another blockage. At this point, guessing is mandatory, and the puzzle is therefore invalid.

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