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Comments on Puzzle #10430: When 1 does not equal 1
By Ron Jacobson (shmily999)

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Puzzle Description:

This proves that 1 equals .9999 repeated. I was in awe when I saw this proof in high school. I'm glad I found some math geeks to share this with. ;-)

#1: Gator (Gator) on Sep 22, 2010 [HINT]

By looking at the picture I can guess how to finish this one, but I cannot see a way to logically figure out the last part of the puzzle. Am I missing something?
#2: MrsThing (MrsThing) on Sep 22, 2010 [HINT]
I did it by logic alone. Just had to be very careful in last 5% or so. :o)
#3: Liz P (Lizteach) on Sep 25, 2010 [HINT]
I'm having trouble with the solution at the very end as well. I tried internal edge logic and two-way logic, but no go.

Mrs. Thing (or Ron), could you share how you did it?
#4: Lollipop (lollipop) on Sep 21, 2017 [SPOILER]
Ron, did your high school math teacher put one over on you? We either round both 10x and 9x or we don't round either. If x = .9999 repeated, then 9x = 8.9999 repeated, not 9. Then x still equals .9999, and 1 does not equal .9999. What am I missing?
#5: Gator (gator) on Sep 21, 2017 [SPOILER]
The hard part to grasp is that the repeating doesn't end. It continues indefinitely. This is one of the core concepts of what is called limits in math. .9 repeated can also be represented as an infinite geometric series. Basically, 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000 + ... with a starting value of 9/10 and a ratio of 1/10. The formula for calculating the value of an infinite geometric series is:

S = a1 / (1 - r) where S is the sum, a1 is the first term of the series, and r is the ratio. Thus:

S = (9/10) / (1 - 1/10) = (9/10)/(9/10) = 1

There are many other ways that this can be proven also with Ron's as one of the ways.
#6: Lollipop (lollipop) on Sep 21, 2017 [SPOILER]
Got it. Thanks, Gator. I didn't understand Ron's proof but I do understand your explanation of an infinite geometric series and the formula for calculating it. Now I can email my friend the math PhD and retired university math professor and show him how smart I am. I may not mention you or Ron, lol.

By the way, that was fun. Thanks, both of you.
#7: BlackCat (BlackCat) on Feb 21, 2021
I do remember being taught this and it didn't make any more sense than it does now. It was a fun puzzle though.

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