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Comments on Puzzle #22727: 70s cheer
By Joe (infrapinklizzard)

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Puzzle Description:

Have a nice day.

#1: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Sep 8, 2013 [HINT]

A little edge logic on the 10 in c1 to eliminate r1-2 is all that's needed apart from line logic.
#2: annalivia (annalivia) on Sep 8, 2013 [SPOILER]
very nice! love the viewpoint! I had no idea 'til it was done.
#3: Thomas Genuine (Genuine) on Sep 9, 2013
Why is it 70s?
#4: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Sep 9, 2013
:) bak @ ya
#5: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Sep 9, 2013 [HINT]
nice puzzle joe :)

...alternatively, if you EL dot just C1R20, then it's LL from there also. that's half the amount of edge logic you describe ;P
#6: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Sep 9, 2013
I really feel dumb, but what am I supposed to see? lol
#7: Kristen Vognild (Kristen) on Sep 10, 2013 [SPOILER]
It's the lower left corner of a smiley face button. :)
#8: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Sep 10, 2013
Now I feel even dumber. Now that I know what it is. Neat puzzle.
#9: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Sep 10, 2013 [SPOILER]
Sorry, Thomas - it's another americanocentric puzzle, or at least the title is. The yellow smiley face (particularly with the "T"s at the ends of the mouth) was ubiquitous in America in the 1970s. Mostly in conjunction with the phrase "Have a nice day."
#10: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Sep 10, 2013
Found to be solvable with moderate lookahead by infrapinklizzard.
#11: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Sep 10, 2013 [HINT]
And I forgot to rate the solvability - oops.

David - I realize you're being facetious, but it raises an interesting point. bugaboo would often put the bare minimum of pixels needed as well. What I did here was to put what I saw as the first piece of edge logic I did.


There are at least two ways to do edge logic - piecemeal or positionally, and holistically.

The first way is to place the clue in each possible position and to rule out each one as you go. This would give you a maximum of one pixel ruled out at a time -- a piecemeal approach.
[In this case, you'd hypothetically start the 10 in r1 and realise that there'd be a conflict in c2r3 and so rule out r1c1. You could then continue on to rule out r2, but you don't need to in order to finish with just line logic.]

The second way is the way I tend to think. It uses the content of the comparison row to quickly locate places where the placement row cannot go. This really doesn't have a maximum pixel count, as you can rule out large swathes if the comparison clue cannot fit (eg if there's lots of alternating 1s and non-1s crossing a long clue).
[In this case, since there is a 9 in c2, the 10 in c1 cannot reach above r3 without creating a too-short block in c2. Therefore everything above r3 (ie c1r1-2) is white.]
#12: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Sep 10, 2013
so what you're saying is....i win?
#13: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Sep 10, 2013
with sprinkles on top
#14: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Sep 10, 2013
cool! neat puzz


hahahaha @ 12/13
#15: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Sep 11, 2013
hmm...sprinkles on top usually make my puzzles have multiple solutions :(
#16: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Sep 11, 2013
That's why you can't see the top here. :D
#17: Tom King (sgusa) on Jul 15, 2014
Fun puzz, Joe! Congratulations for the sprinkles, David.
#18: BlackCat (BlackCat) on Dec 14, 2017
Took a bit to see. Fun solve.

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