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Comments on Puzzle #11987: wcp#77 gotcha!
By Aldege Cholette (Aldege)

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  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: moderate lookahead  

Puzzle Description:

fish on the end of gator's hook.

#1: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Jan 31, 2011 [SPOILER]

cute! I thought it might be an eye or a peacock feather, but that wouldn't match the clue. :)
#2: Bryan (Cyclone) on Jan 31, 2011 [HINT]
PRIOR STARTING STEP EDITED OUT - UNNEEDED

You can solve a few starting points logically. After this, R9C6-9 is false. If true, it forces 2 true squares in R10. R9 is now solved, and the rest is a piece of cake. I've classified as solvable by logic.
#3: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Jan 31, 2011
i agree with Bryan... thx 4 entry
#4: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Jan 31, 2011
cyclone your first step is more than 2 look ahead moves just fyi
but yes this is logically solvable
#5: Bryan (Cyclone) on Jan 31, 2011 [HINT]
Actually, there are a few easily entered starting points before this at R4C4, R8C5, and R7C7 (all true). I'm editing out a step in my prior post because it's not necessary.
#6: Niki Cholette (Niki420) on Jan 31, 2011
this is solvable by logic alone as most can see now and it still has a ?
#7: Jota (jota) on Jan 31, 2011
No guessing for me ... great follow up story. Thanks!
#8: Meira Bracha (mbracha) on Feb 1, 2011
great drawing on a small palette.
#9: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Feb 1, 2011
Thanks jota and Meira, I just couldn't resist putting a fish on the end of gator's hook.
#10: Wombat (wombatilim) on Feb 1, 2011 [HINT]
Bryan - I could indeed solve this easily assuming #2 is correct, but I couldn't see how you came to the conclusion that having R9C6-9 filled in would cause a contradiction in R10. Could you spell this out more clearly?

I did see that R8C1 had to be empty and R8C6 had to be filled in, since that would be true regardless of which side of C5 the 4 in R9 fell on.
#11: Kadou (Kadou) on Feb 1, 2011 [HINT]
Solves with logic alone. If you prefer edge logic, use it on column 9 for rows 8, 9, 10. They all end up in dots, therefore leaving room for the '4' clue on row 9 in columns 1 to 4 only.
#12: Wombat (wombatilim) on Feb 2, 2011
#11 Okay, that solved it for me, though still quite tricky. Thanks. :)
#13: Gator (Gator) on Feb 4, 2011 [HINT] [SPOILER]
This is what I did.

After the initial line logic, assume R8C2-R8C3 are dots. This causes both R3C2 and R3C3 to be black which contradicts row 3. So we know at least one of these is black. This enables us to mark R8C3 as black. A little more line logic.

I then did edge logic on the 4 clue in row 9 to see that R9C9 was a dot. The rest solves with line logic.

Nice puzzle.

@ Aldege - if only there were fish that day...sigh.
#14: Web Paint-By-Number Robot (webpbn) on Feb 4, 2011
Found to be logically solvable by Gator.
#15: Tom O'Connell (sensei69) on Feb 4, 2011
thanks for your agreement, gator
#16: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Feb 4, 2011
Thanks Gator,i'm glad it was solvable.I used a different bait.lol
#17: Bryan (Cyclone) on Feb 13, 2011 [HINT]
Wombat, Gator seems to have used the same method I did solving for R9. However, I was able to use basic logic, I believe, up to that point and Gator's first step with R3 is not necessary; it actually solved itself after I solved R9. If my method still confuses you, I can get pictures.
#18: Sarah Andrews (sarah) on Feb 14, 2011 [SPOILER]
nice fish
#19: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Feb 14, 2011
thx Sarah.
#20: Lilly Johns (LJohns315) on Jun 10, 2011 [SPOILER]
Nice. There is not anything fishy about this puzzle. :)
#21: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Sep 10, 2011
thx Lilly,very clever BTW.:)
#22: Joe (infrapinklizzard) on Jan 26, 2014 [HINT]
I only used one bit of advanced logic:

After line logic, deep edge logic on the 4 in r9 (vs r7).

If it were to go in c5-9, then the crossing clues of 2 in c6 and c8 would leave a block of one in r7. So r9c5-9 is white and it finishes with line logic.

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