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#1: Gator (Gator) on May 12, 2010 [HINT]

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wow, Gator, you have stumped me again. I've done over 700 puzzle on this site and solved all but this one and your last one. both are LLS

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i already got the dot in r-15 which locks in the 8
c-16 is a different story
thanks for your extra attention

Wow. Amazing job of making a really hard line solvable puzzle with a very nice image at the end. It's really cool that you are working on being able to control the difficulty at the same time as you keep a good image. I never really got that far. I'd just draw a picture, fiddle with it to make it solvable, and let the difficulty fall where it fell.

BRAVO again, Gator (you the man)

Holy crap. This was amazing - it might be my favorite puzzle I've done here on WPBN yet. Absolutely brilliant how it solved, and one of the most difficult line logic puzzles I've come across. This shows why you're the king of paint-by-numbers, Gator. Kudos.

Wowser! That was quite the challenge, but oh so rewarding to see that awesome image at the end. Well done, as usual, Gator.

i think i agree with everyone's wonderful comments

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I still can't get it even with the hints. I give up

A rule for gator LLS puzzles. When you get stuck, look for lines with two or more unplaced clues, but with dots or filled squares in unusual patterns, especially lines where for some of the possible solutions are very constrained, so you are thinking "if the 8 is covers both this black and that black, then it has to be exactly here", or "if the 4 doesn't cover this black, then it has to be exactly there". These kinds of lines with rather complicated things going on in them are fertile ground for fancy line logic, where you can notice that for *all* the possible solutions, one particular cell has is always black or always white. In the always black case, it will be always black, but not always part of the same clue. In the always white case it will always be white, but not always between the same two clues. It takes some time to think through all the possible arrangements of the clues in a line and compare them to see if there are any cells whose color never changes, but luckily Gator's puzzles are also small, and most lines are usually pretty normal looking and thus can be readily dismissed.

Gator rules!

Well, 3 months later, I picked up where I left off, and maybe with a clearer head, I got through it. Excellent image, super tough solve.

Thanks Joel. I'm glad you persevered.

Me love it!!!

I went looking for a hard small puzzle and came across this masterpiece, loved it, thanks Gator!

Thanks!

nice!!

Thanks!

I came back to this after a long time, and finally solved it. Tough one, Gator. Thanks!

Thanks Tom.

Wow! Ditto what everyone has said over the past 3 years. Challenging and rewarding solve. Couldn't set it down once I got into it.

I didn't find it by line logic. I used edge logic.

Whew! I think I saw smoke coming out of the top of my head in working through that puzzle! Great image.

Much tougher than I expected. Even when I guessed what it was, I still had problems finishing it.

Thanks!

Still fabulous in 2017!...and you have Jan's comments, too. So special, my friend. Kudos...and a big hug!

**Hug** Thanks. I still like this puzzle a lot, but I just played it again and it seems much easier than I remember it.

I love you Gator! (no gay intended) and I'm glad you are still here. :D

Tough solve and rewarding image. Fun.

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