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By Teresa K (fasstar)

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#1: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Feb 17, 2019

nice one!

didn't Franklin say something similar?
#2: Teresa K (fasstar) on Feb 17, 2019
Thanks, Kurt.

Samples of Ben's wisdom:

"It is ill-manners to silence a fool and cruelty to let him go on."

"Silence is not always a sign of wisdom, but babbling is ever a mark of folly."
#3: Teresa K (fasstar) on Feb 17, 2019
From an NPR article on quotations we get wrong (which I now clearly remember reading):

On the origin of the quote "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt," which has been wrongly attributed to both to Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain

The earliest evidence that I was able to find was a 1907 book by Maurice Switzer. And it seems to contain a lot of original material and it includes the statement "It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it." So it's slightly different phrasing, but I believe that is what evolved to generate the modern common version.
#4: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Feb 17, 2019
It's interesting how the phrase has changed. More recently it became "If you don't have anything to say, don't open your mouth and prove it."
#5: Kurt Kowalczyk (bahabro) on Feb 17, 2019
Yeah, I thought Twain was attributed to something similar as well.... thx for the clarification! If you think about it though, I'd almost guess that Switzer was aware of Franklin's quote and modified it. No one would ever know really, but I'll posit he did. Switzer's sounds better, for sure. Even if it came as early as Lincoln, the same could be said. Franklin died 30 yrs before Lincoln was born. At any rate, ppl today know a lot of Franklin's quotes, and I'd imagine it was even more-so the case back then.
#6: Meira Bracha (mbracha) on Feb 17, 2019
I like the quote but I don't get the picture.
#7: Vicki Woods (vickicwoods) on Feb 18, 2019
Yes, what IS the picture? It looks like the side of an old dime, but is probably Greek art.
#8: Teresa K (fasstar) on Feb 18, 2019 [SPOILER]
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#9: Norma Dee (norm0908) on Feb 18, 2019
Now I see it. I kept seeing a hat kind of leaning on a desk lamp.
#10: Aurelian Ginkgo (AurelianGinkgo) on Feb 19, 2019
Benjamin Franklin was an ENTP (Myers-Briggs personality type). I doubt it was as easy for him to keep silent as it was to say it is wise to do so. All the EXXPs are talkers. However, Lincoln was an introvert (I believe an INTP, but I don't remember.) Even if he didn't come up with the quote, I can see his draw to it.
#11: Aldege Cholette (Aldege) on Feb 21, 2019
Well regardless of who came up with it,I love the quote and your puzzle Teresa.
#12: Teresa K (fasstar) on Feb 21, 2019
Thank you both, Aurelian and Aldege! (✬‿✬)
#13: jewel crown (jewel) on Mar 3, 2019
Wonderful Teresa.
Lincoln's quote is so wise!
#14: Teresa K (fasstar) on Mar 4, 2019
Thank you, Jewel. My most favorite quote attributed to Abe is "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." Or something close to that. It was a real turning point in my life when I realized I could decide to be happy, no matter what was going on in my life. (✬‿✬)
#15: Joanne Firla (JoFirla) on Mar 19, 2019
I think Lincoln and Franklin took this piece of wisdom from Proverbs. (chapter 17) Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace;
When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive.
#16: Teresa K (fasstar) on Mar 25, 2019
I think you are the wise one here, Joanne. Thanks for posting this bit of info. (✬‿✬)
#17: BRASH ATAOM (BRASHatAOM) on Feb 26, 2023
I love the image, but don't understand what it has to do with any president....?
#18: David R. Felton (drfelton) on Feb 27, 2023 [SPOILER]
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