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By Marie-Louise Ambrey (marz71)

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  quality:   difficulty:   solvability: line logic only  

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#1: Kristen Vognild (kristen) on Nov 28, 2011 [HINT]

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#2: Paul Zrimsek (pzrimsek) on Nov 28, 2011 [HINT]
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#3: Tonia Bergh (tonia) on Nov 28, 2011
Indeed it is! Fun solve. What was your inspiration? :)
#4: Aldege Cholette (aldege) on Nov 28, 2011
Great image marz.:)
#5: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Nov 28, 2011
line logic never runs and that is all you need to solve this but the computer gets stuck about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way through and cant find the next line logic step
the only essential (but maybe less obvious to see) dot that you have to find is at r5c14 and then even the computer can solve the rest
great image
#6: Marie-Louise Ambrey (marz71) on Nov 28, 2011
Thanks all :)

Kristin, too much symmetry for my liking too, but I couldn't make it solvable by logic alone when I tried to make it not symmetric.

Tonia, was a little logo I saw on tv.

Thanks for the hints Bugaboo.
#7: Ailsa Hebert (bazette3) on Nov 28, 2011
Nice puzzle...enjoyed it
#8: Tom King (sgusa) on Nov 28, 2011
Thanks, Marz! Fun puzzle. Nice challenge. Ditto Paul in #2
#9: janet kennedy (jlgoose) on Nov 29, 2011
Great image...but it seems to me that what you people call internal logic is nothing more than sophisticated guessing. The symmetry allows for you to guess the solution.
#10: Susan Duncan (medic25733) on Nov 29, 2011 [SPOILER]
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#11: Teresa K (fasstar) on Nov 29, 2011
Nicely designed, Marie-Louise, a real fun solve.

I was tempted to use symmetry, but that is not logic, that is assuming the image is symmetrical, which is guessing.

There are times when the clues suggest symmetry but the image is not necessarily symmetrical. (Jan show us examples of this once.) To solve it logically, you need to rule out any other possibility (within 2 moves ahead - house rules). That's what separates symmetry from internal logic. Internal logic can be tricky to see, but it is real logic, ruling out any other possibility.
#12: Marie-Louise Ambrey (marz71) on Nov 30, 2011
Thanks Teresa :)
#13: Levi Ross (rhodyboy888) on Nov 30, 2011
Challenging solve. Well done.
#14: bugaboo (bugaboo) on Nov 30, 2011
yes rhodyboy that is how i like my fish too
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#15: David Bouldin (dbouldin) on Apr 1, 2012 [HINT]
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#16: Brian Bellis (mootpoint) on Nov 16, 2023
What a gem to pop up on the home page! I'm so happy this came to my attention albeit over a decade late. Great puzzle.

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